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Postby chuck44 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 7:52 pm

BOULDER – Colorado women’s soccer coach Bill Hempen has resigned after the Buffaloes went 1-9-1 for their inaugural Pac-12 schedule, the school announced Wednesday.

Hempen coached 11 seasons at Colorado and was named Big 12 Conference coach of the year in 2003 after leading the Buffs to a 15-4-1 record in his second year in Boulder.

But after a string of six straight NCAA appearances (2003-08), Colorado has struggled the past three seasons.

After a 4-13-2 mark this season, Hempen’s overall Colorado record ends at 114-88-28. His 2003 team won the Big 12 title and reached the NCAA Tournament Sweet 16.

“After a very challenging season, I’ve had plenty of time to do some soul searching, consider where we are with the program and what direction we were headed in the future,â€
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Re: baby steps

Postby billyray » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:14 pm

[quote="give and go"]SLU begins a nationwide search. Bringing in a outsider in a recession is not advisable IMO unless it is Wambach or someone of that magnitude that could recruit blue chippers. The girl who scored the winning goal in the championship for Stanford grew up across the street from campus. That is the kind of mojo SLU needs. Good Luck.[/quote]

Just curious, but why would the recession mean you shouldn'T hire an outsider?
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Postby chuck44 » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:38 pm

Can I go out on a limb and say that chances are 1,000,000,000,000 to 1 that a kid who grew up across the street from SLU's campus will ever play soccer at the school.
I also dont get the recession part?
WE will find out how much they care about the program when they make the next hire. Hempen's career at Duke and Colorado should put him on the short list, hope here is that it is at least someone of that stature.
And for the record I don't think Abby Wambach will take the job, but maybe Mia Hamm is available??? CMON MAN. Maybe we could get Alex Ferguson to coach the SLU men.
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Postby hummel » Mon Dec 05, 2011 9:47 pm

except for parent who have girls that play nobody really care. Schools only have girls soccer because they have to, 1200 fans for final. nobody care
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Postby give and go » Mon Dec 05, 2011 11:19 pm

gotta think that in a recession it is cost effective to have a local coach recruit closer to the bi-state area. Mia would be an exception :) Chalupny concussion might be a deal breaker.
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Postby give and go » Tue Dec 06, 2011 12:48 am

US Soccer hierarchy wants the WPS to add a team (Maybe have the US national team play together in the league). If (God forbid) the league dissolves, then top caliber coachs might be looking to NCAA ranks for jobs. Hence a scenario at SLU to hire a big time coach (Wambach is probably committed to the London Olympics). SLU should attract local stars who grew up figuratively "across the street"; not the case currently. IMO
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Postby chuck44 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:03 pm

So if WPS fails Abby Wambach is coming to coach SLU? Lets see she was born in Rochester, NY, and probably makes a few bucks playing for US and with a few endorsement deals. You think she comes to St. Louis for what exactly? What do you think the former coach was making?
See the Hempen rumor at least has some chance because he was born here, his sister lives here, he has coached college soccer, he needs a job, etc. Wambach? Wps is closing she will come to stl and coach slu women???
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Postby Huskies » Tue Dec 06, 2011 2:28 pm

I hope they hire a coach that plays entertaining soccer and win. Something very difficult to find these days. What is the rule about players transferring from SLU since they are hiring a new coach?
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Postby billyray » Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:45 pm

How attractive of a job do we think SLU is? I dont really see SLU attracting a high profile coach. Maybe a coach from a lower level would do well. And why couldnt an outsider recruit in st. louis. Here are some names i thought of.

Wendy dillinger-went to st. charles west and indiana, coached at wash u, now at iowa state. Doubt SLU'S better financially.

Warren lipka-went to lindbergh and south carolina, long time coach at kentucky, now at morehead state. Also coached youth national teams.

Dave musso-played at desmet and quincy, now coach at quincy been to 6 straight ncaa tournaments

Mike cannon-longtime coach at trumam, numerous ncaa tournaments

Alf bilbao-coach at drury, successful coach with men at drury and truman

Lewis theobald-successful coach at central

Tracy grose-played at howell north and indiana, was an assistant at northern arizona and,now at iowa state

My #1 candidate (drumroll please)-stef kray-played at howell north and duke, now the head coach of a successful program at west point. SLU might be considered a step up for her.
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... and ask why not

Postby give and go » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:22 am

sure Coach Stefanie (Kraay) Golan of West Point and the others you named would be solid choices; I'm just offering some "outside the box" names like Chalupny, Wambach (possible future US coach) that could recruit appropriately and keep local talent in town.
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Postby billyray » Fri Dec 09, 2011 12:59 pm

I like some of the names billyray mentioned.

give and go, what about Chalupny and Wambach would make you think they'd do a better job of recruiting "appropriately" and of keeping talent in St. Louis? Why couldn't the above named coaches do the same? I'm not saying they wouldn't be good coaches but I'm curious what would make them better at keeping St. Louis talent in St. Louis. Sure, the big names may help, but I think that would wear off after a while. If anything I'd see Wamback trying to recruit every youth national team player she could.
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Postby wisekeeper » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:32 pm

Big names and former great players don't always make for great coaches. It's better to go with someone with experience at the college level rather than going with just a name.

I like the coaches above and would love to see on in particular come back and coach here. Won't happen but there is wishful thinking.
Let the kids play
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Postby tv4 » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:32 pm

billyray, I like that you refer to yourself in the third person.

I like some of those people as well, but who knows who will be interested.
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Postby chuck44 » Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:36 pm

Wambach is beyond a longshot.
Chalupny at least has local ties.
Billyray's list is solid, I would eliminate some of the small school people who did not play d-1 ball, because that is pretty much a pre-req for the job these days, not sure why, but it just seems to be. I would look to midwestrn programs who have had some success that are slightly lower profile than SLU, that's reasonable.
I think Hempen formerly of Duke and CU would be a catch, but Wambach has about as much chance of taking over the Women's soccer program as Pat Summit has of leaving to come to SLU.
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longshot candidates

Postby give and go » Fri Dec 09, 2011 6:28 pm

recruiting is largely salespersonship 101. Selling the program would be easy for Chalupny or Wambach (Wambach was a convincing spokesperson for MagicJack phones :wink: ) IMO
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Re: longshot candidates

Postby Posh » Sun Dec 11, 2011 12:52 am

give and go wrote:recruiting is largely salespersonship 101. Selling the program would be easy for Chalupny or Wambach (Wambach was a convincing spokesperson for MagicJack phones :wink: ) IMO


Enough with the Wambach campaign. Why in the World would she want to coach in the A-10, and at SLU ? And why would she be a good fit for SLU regardless? I thought you were kidding at first, but obviously not.

Musso would be interesting. He got the gig ealy at Quincy and has done a great job of recruiting STL. Step up in compettion though. I think he might be happier where he is at, IMHO.
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Postby dlw4634 » Sun Dec 11, 2011 8:06 am

Why would Musso leave a winning program where he has made 6 trips to the NCAA tournament and has recruited several All-American players, including this year with Sam Andert making first team. 8)
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Re: slu

Postby Posh » Mon Dec 12, 2011 12:12 am

dlw4634 wrote:Why would Musso leave a winning program where he has made 6 trips to the NCAA tournament and has recruited several All-American players, including this year with Sam Andert making first team. 8)


$$$$

Or maybe career aspirations....but I agree, he has done a great job at Quincy.

Congrats to Sam, BTW
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Re: slu

Postby dlw4634 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 7:28 am

Posh wrote:
dlw4634 wrote:Why would Musso leave a winning program where he has made 6 trips to the NCAA tournament and has recruited several All-American players, including this year with Sam Andert making first team. 8)


$$$$

Or maybe career aspirations....but I agree, he has done a great job at Quincy.

Congrats to Sam, BTW


I hope Musso stays loyal to the college he played at and doesn't go "Albert" LOL :lol:

Thanks for the congrats.
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Postby chuck44 » Mon Dec 12, 2011 8:54 am

Most programs at the d1 level mistakenly eliminate coaches who played at places like Quincy or Truman so I think your safe guys. Collective mindset is that players will tune out people that couldnt play at least at their level. I disagree, but think that's how it goes. The days of say someone like Charlie Spoonhour who was a good hs b-ball coach becoming a D1 coach are gone. I would suspect it will either be someone who fits into 1 of 3 categories. A young D1 coach at another program who played D1 soccer, an asst. coach at a D1 program who played D1 soccer, or someone with SLU ties (like an alum) who is getting into coaching.
I dont see a Cannon or Musso even though I think both would be good. And I wouldn't see them to be like Albert if they took the SLU job. This is a step up to the big time, not just a move to a bigger market. I understand the loyalty to your respective schools, and since I played at a small school I get it, but when/if the big guys call it would be tough to turn it down.
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