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Postby bogey64 » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:22 pm

Any predictions for this upcoming year? Any freshman coming in that could make a impact?
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Postby highkick » Mon Aug 15, 2005 4:32 pm

Who cares you can't pronounce any of the names. It would be nice to see some St. Louis kids get a chance instead of the 25 - 30 year old international players that Coach Hutter keeps bringing in.
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Postby FHN '96 » Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:10 am

highkick - i disagree with you. these guys have just as much right as a kid from stl to play. if anything, you have to admire coach hutter for bring all of these players from different backgrounds together. some of the eastern europeans have been through some tough times, why not let them play soccer and get a degree?
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Postby highkick » Tue Aug 16, 2005 6:35 am

I think Carl Hutter does a great job. However the ratio of internationals to Americans is way out of wack. The foreign thing aside, Lindenwood is using grown MEN not kids to fill the majority of their scholarships. And if you compare the All-Americans to the academic All Americans the Internationals are hardly represented on the academic side. That being said I would'nt compare the coaching staff at Lindenwood to Mother Teresa.
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Postby bogey64 » Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:14 am

Did anyone happen to see the game last night between SLU and lindenwood. How did both teams look and was it as lopsided as everyone thought it would be.
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Postby Pecoach » Wed Oct 21, 2009 11:14 pm

whats the status of the program?
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Postby Upper90 » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:24 pm

If the players that were brought in were great players and your goal was to just win, I have no issues. BUT after watching a couple LU games this year inc. last Sat vs. Benedictine, I saw 3 maybe 4 players that made a difference. Lindenwood was lucky to escape with a draw against a up and coming program in Benedictine. And guess what, Bendictine has about 98% american players, primarily from KC and St. Louis.

LU played 17 players, 3 from St. Louis. I have a hard time believing that there are not St. Louis or other American players that could not have played at the same level. I have nothing against having some foreign "flavor" to any team. I think it adds quite a bit to any program, just don't see the need for such disparity.

By the way, LU is a very mediocre 5 - 7 - 2
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Postby Newlin » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:27 pm

They should have a limit of foreign players on any one team. I'm not sure why the college coaches don't think they can't win with St. Louis players or American players.

I think it is great to have a couple of foreigners on your team but it is wrong to fill your roster with them. (They do add some skill and flair to the team.)

Also, it's not fair when an 18 year old kid is playing against a 24 year old from another country. I know they changed the rule on the age but does anyone know the oldest you can be to play at an NAIA school?
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Postby loco4soccer » Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:17 pm

St. Louis kids or "American Kids" dont want to stay home and play unless it's at a big program. Most parents think spending thousands at big clubs entitles their kids to play D1, and those parents wont settle for NAIA or NJCAA. The "foreign" kids wanna play, and they'll play anywhere. In most situations they dont take a scholarship offer and turn their noses up too it because it wont look cool if The Jone's sent their kid to D1 and The Smith's are only getting looks from NAIA.
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Postby bullwinkle » Tue Oct 27, 2009 1:39 pm

Most of our top area players pass over Lindenwood as an option as they look for D1-D3 schools. I believe that Lindenwood is trying to add some quality area talent. If they do that then the ratio of International to American/local players could become closer. Carl Hutter is a great coach who demands fitness of his players from the very beginning. Local players should not pass over Lindenwood as an option as there are many NAIA schools who can compete with many D1 and D2 schools. Don't bang on Lindenwood too much. If the better local players don't consider Lindenwood an option why shouldn't Carl and Co. look to the International players to fill their roster.

Also Upper90 I was at that Lindenwood game which was a draw and from what I watched Lindenwood had the better of the play. Benedictine is a very good team. Also the young players for Lindenwood played very well. With some added local talent they could compete and go to Nationals once again in the future.
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Postby Newlin » Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:02 pm

I think it is easier for the NAIA coaches to go after foreigners and that is why there are fewer St. Louis players on the team. Also, you can have a lower GPA to play for an NAIA school. Maybe the St. Louis players want to go to a better academic school or the coaches are not recruiting the local kids hard enough. It's probably a little of both.

The women's team at Lindenwood use to go after players from Sweden and Finland but now with a different coach, that doesn't happen any more. She recruits hard to sign local players...why can't the men?

I really can't believe how few St. Louis players are on the men's team at Lindenwood though. Maybe one of the coaches can explain it to all of us.
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Postby Alansmith » Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:52 pm

give Hutter a break. He won a national title. Doesnt that anwer all questions
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Postby Newlin » Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:16 pm

No!
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Postby Tiger IJL » Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:28 pm

I was shocked when checking out some websites that show colleges with Men's soccer that Lindenwood had so few St. Louisans, and so many foreign born players.

NAIA soccer is good soccer. Only the top D1 teams are really a cut above D2 and NAIA on the men's side.
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Postby michael.elam » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:21 am

with the talks of Lindenwood potentially going to NSAA Div II the local kids might look towards LU for a viable place to play. The men won the Conference title and are playing well. I wish them well today in Ohio in the opening round of the national championships
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NAIA

Postby give and go » Sat Nov 21, 2009 11:00 pm

Rio Grande Ohio 3 Lindenwood 0 :( Columbia Missouri and Benedictine Kansas won their play-in games. By the way, area-women results include McKendree :) wins and in another game Missouri Baptist lost to Lindsey Wilson.
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Re: NAIA

Postby Tiger IJL » Sun Nov 22, 2009 10:31 am

give and go wrote:Rio Grande Ohio 3 Lindenwood 0 :( Columbia Missouri and Benedictine Kansas won their play-in games. By the way, area-women results include McKendree :) wins and in another game Missouri Baptist lost to Lindsey Wilson.


As someone said earlier, Benedictine's roster is almost totally KC & St. Louis area kids.

Columbia College's roster is an eclectic mix of roughly 50% Missourians, 50% foreign-born players. With 15,000 college-age girls in Columbia between Mizzou, Columbia and Stephens College, that might be a fun but distracting environment.
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Postby chuck44 » Mon Nov 23, 2009 11:32 am

Congrats to the Mighty Ravens!
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Re: Lindenwood Mens

Postby michael.elam » Sun Nov 04, 2012 3:46 am

The Lindenwood Lions had an out standing first year in the NCAA D2, Winning their conference and the conference tournament, unfortunatly this is where it ends this year being the provisional year.

http://www.lindenwoodlions.com/news/201 ... ?path=msoc
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