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MLS Coming to the STL

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Re: The Bar Has Been Raised - Cooper Steps Up...

Postby overath » Sat Oct 13, 2012 5:41 am

It' s funny how Kroenke was kept out of the first attempt.....STL will struggle to support a MLS team ....too fickle a market and especially with a stadium downtown and not in the burbs....bring in Arsenal personnel leave out amateur SLSG personnel and it might work! :lol:
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Re: The Bar Has Been Raised - Cooper Steps Up...

Postby Sneauman » Sat Oct 13, 2012 12:46 pm

STL will struggle to support a MLS team ....too fickle a market and especially with a stadium downtown and not in the burbs...
Depends on the team they put together but even with a good team support will dwindle after 3-4 years, Union Station is a lot easier to get to than SLYSA or Collinsville for most of us.
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Re: The Bar Has Been Raised - Cooper Steps Up...

Postby Vodja » Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:11 pm

this Busch game Chelsea vs Man City is a huge test for STL. I'm excited that if it's a success, could we then propose for an MLS team to play at Busch? Not soccer specific but still. Would the Cardinal schedule be too touch to deal with? didn't Sporting do that for a bit? If not then very cool we have this option for big games here and there. Way to go Cardinals!
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby GRAPEVINEsoccer » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:34 pm

Money wrote:Thank you to the St. Louligans for all you do! PS - Great name!

If you tailgate, they will come.

There's no MLS team in St. Louis, but for the St. Louligans, a group of men and women who love soccer, getting together at soccer games around town and showing there's a strong fan base in place is one way to attract the deep-pocketed investors who have the means to bring the country's top soccer league to River City.

The official stance of the St. Louligans is to support soccer in St. Louis, which means tailgating and going to games to see the Ambush, Lions, and Fire and Ice. But according to Mitch Morice and Brad DeMunbrun, the goal is to one day tailgate in the parking lot of an MLS team -- and to have some fun and connect with other soccer fans along the way.
See also: If We're Such a Soccer Town, Why Doesn't St. Louis Have a Major League Soccer Team?

"The last several teams that moved into the MLS, they started at a lower level," DeMunbrun tells Daily RFT. "And we want to create that fan base so that if and when investors come to St. Louis, they can see there's a fan base there already, they're supporting a lower-level team, and we want to get more people out to show St. Louis is ready to take that next step."

Soccer fans in St. Louis had to take a step back in 2011 when AC St. Louis, fraught with financial problems and mismanagement, was forced to dissolve after only one season. But it was during that season when the original St. Louligans met, and after AC St. Louis was no more, they vowed to keep trying to bring top-level soccer back to town.

Since then, they've made it a point to not only support the lower-level teams, but also create podcasts, frequently updated Twitter and Facebook accounts with soccer news, and even sell some merchandise to help supplement the cost of the organizing activities.
"People just jump in and do what they can," Morice says. "We don't have any dues, and we don't have any membership requirements other than show up."

But the St. Louligans are not just about keeping intact a devoted soccer fan base. They also work behind the scenes with St. Louis Lions owner Tom Glavin and his front office to show St. Louis can support a USL Pro team, despite the failure of AC St. Louis.
"Tony Glavin has made no secret that he wants to move up to USL pro, which would be the third division of the soccer pyramid, so we work with him," Morice says. "The Ambush are talking with Tony about maybe taking that next step going together. We're actively working the relationships and asking the team what we can do for them. In turn, they love us being out there."

DeMunbrun adds that the podcasts and social-media presence the Louligans provide are part of what help promote the teams locally.

"Most of these teams in the area don't have big budgets or huge marketing teams, but a lot of it is this day-in and day-out thing," he says.

Morice and DeMunbrun know it'll take some time to get big-league soccer to St. Louis, but they say the Louligans will keep doing their thing until that day comes.

"It's definitely an organic thing; it's not something that's gonna happen overnight," Morice says. "But at some point in time to have the top-level team St Louis can support."

In the meantime the group can be found tailgating around town at the pro amateur teams, and count on them being a big presence at the upcoming Bosnia vs. Argentina friendly on November 18.
"It'll be no different than an NFL tailgate that a lot of people are used to," Morice says of the Bosnia vs. Argentina bout. "Just show up to the tailgate, have a beer or a soda or a hot dog and join us."

from the RFT - ... is_mls.php
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby xwaterboy » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:35 pm

amazing to me that STL is not close. so frusterating.
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby dogbreath » Thu Nov 14, 2013 11:14 am

MLS posted the RFT article on the St. Louligans. Scroll down to #14 ... ie-johnson
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby LLMG » Sun Nov 17, 2013 12:59 am

It's hard to understand why we don't have a team by now. Are we even on the radar anymore?
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby strong side » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:56 am

There is a group of local soccer and business heavyweights that are working on some international investors. More will be known after an important overseas meeting in January.
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby CaptKup4 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:43 am

It's all about the money. StL has never had any serious, big money investors so MLS was never interested. NYC got its second team by joining forces with the big money from Manchester City.
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby TheLink » Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:56 am

it's going to take huge money to get a team here. we are going to need a stadium too so. we need that cronke money to get involved. I don't feel we are close. but it MLS has a goal of 24 teams, STL has to be in those plans. also the league will get watered down if it keeps expanding like this. we need more and more homegrown players. yes the academy system is helping that cause but not as fast as the mls is growing. don't get me wrong the MLS product quality is way better then it was but the majority of the success is coming from the supporter groups passion and the soccer specific stadiums.
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby Longball » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:03 am

I"m just happy to see the captain and thelink posting again! don't be strangers!
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby POD » Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:32 am

ditto that, welcome back Kup!
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby LLMG » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:01 am

I'm so frusterated at the thought of STL never getting a team. will it ever happen?
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby KNVB » Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:43 pm

Let's get Cooper involved & start a facebook page!
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby dogbreath » Wed Jan 08, 2014 11:27 pm

Not seeing it anytime soon without a stadium.
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby Vodja » Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:48 am

It’s 10 a.m. on a Saturday and soccer fans fill the Amsterdam Tavern in south city, a bar known for opening before most people wake up on the weekend.

On this day three English Premier League matches are showing on mounted TVs, but the big attraction is Arsenal vs. Fulham. Nearly everyone has a beer in hand.

When Arsenal scores the bar erupts in cheers.

"Arsenal is pretty popular in this area," explains Mitch Morice, co-founder of the soccer supporter group the St. Louligans.

Morice has two scarves draped around his neck. One is the red, white and blue scarf of the American Outlaws, a die-hard group of U.S. soccer supporters. The other scarf is green and yellow with the signature St. Louligan skull and cross-bones.

The St. Louligans first came together in 2010 to support the city's short-lived, outdoor professional team, AC-St. Louis. When that club folded after just one season, Morice says the Louligans were the silver lining.

"There were people coming down here to watch the morning games, but they didn’t have anything local. There was nothing binding them together," Morice said. "... But we were all St. Louis fans for one year. Now it’s something for us to build on. So if we do get a pro team, it’s just going to be insane."

While Morice and other St. Louligans wait for a professional team to call St. Louis home, they still support amateur soccer, such as the St. Louis Lions.

But getting a Major League Soccer team here is the Holy Grail.

Last month MLS Commissioner Don Garber dangled that possibility when he mentioned St. Louis among five cities being eyed for league expansion, along with Atlanta, Minneapolis, San Antonio, and Austin.

Garber has said the league's goal is to expand to 24 teams by 2020.

"[St. Louis] is the birthplace of soccer in America from what I’ve been told,” Garber said, following his State of the League address. "I live in the same town as Yogi Berra, and all he wants to do is talk about soccer, never the Yankees."

Garber paused to tell the room of New York reporters, "Yogi Berra is from St. Louis, folks."

It’s well known among St. Louisans that Berra grew up on The Hill, where Italian immigrants brought their love of soccer when they settled there more than a hundred years ago.

The neighborhood produced four of the five St. Louisans who played on the U.S. team that beat England in the 1950 World Cup.

According to Bill McDermott, there is no overstating the city’s contribution to American soccer. He should know. McDermott played soccer at St. Louis University and has spent more than four decades doing game broadcasts, including the three international matches held in St. Louis last year. Around town, he's known as "Mr. Soccer."

"Any newfound cachet that perhaps the sport of soccer enjoys today in the United States is directly attributable to what the city of St. Louis started well over a century ago," he said.

McDermott says the huge turnout for those games proves the fan base is here. But getting an MLS team will require an investor with very deep pockets.

"It has become, for all intents and purposes, a billionaire’s club," McDermott said.

Expansion fees can cost more than $75 million. Investors for the New York FC paid a $100 million franchise fee, while Orlando SC paid $70 million. Both teams begin playing in the 2015 season.

MLS also requires a soccer-specific outdoor stadium, usually in an urban core. Webster University sports economist Patrick Rishe says those come with a hefty price tag.

"If you look at the cost of facilities that have been built recently, in particular Red Bull Arena (New Jersey) and Sporting Park (Kansas City), you’re talking about costs somewhere between $207 million and $235 million for a new soccer stadium," Rishe said.

Rishe says public funding is highly unlikely, especially considering that private funding paid for much of the Cardinals new stadium.

The St. Louligans are realistic about the financial hurdles.

Morice points to other cities that first looked to small pro teams then later landed an MLS team.

"If [we] have to go USL- Pro, NASL, build it up and make it something that way, honestly, I think some of us would prefer that," Morice said, "because that way it’s more DIY. 'We did this. We built it up.'"

He adds, though, if someone with a "boatload of money" wants to build a stadium and bring a team to St. Louis, he’s not going to be unhappy about that.

from STL Public Radio: ... occer-team
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby Larry » Tue Sep 23, 2014 12:12 pm

this thread is a great read! omg
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby xwaterboy » Sun Oct 12, 2014 11:05 am

If SLSG can pack the Soccer Park consistency then I see Mr. Kavs utilizing his Blues connections to put together a group that will bring MLS to the STL. Look at what he did with WWT.
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Re: MLS Coming to the STL

Postby LLMG » Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:47 am

If WWT simply gave a ticket to all it's workers and then 50% of them bought a ticket to go with that one free ticket, the park would then be packed. Oh yea and SLSG has 4000+ players. This will work. Thank you Rush and LF for jumping in on the cause. Come on STL, lets support this team! I'm so excited!
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